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Advice on a 'good reverb' settings
« Thread Started on Oct 22, 2008, 6:36pm »

Hi Dave, and anybody else reading. Have just joined up, so I thought I'd start with asking for some advice.

I've just bought a Lexicon MX200, and I've also dug up an old Art FXR processor I had kicking about.
I'm planning on using the MX200 as a 'dual mono' processor, with one side being used for a vocal delay, and the other side as a general subtle reverb (to add a touch to vocals etc). Any idea on some good settings that might be ideal for a rock band, ... just to save me scrolling through all the 99 presets etc, and also what slight modifications you might make to the preset sounds (as it also has 99 user programs that can be stored too).

The other unit, the Art FXR has 16 basic preset sounds, with another 16 varitations on each one, giving 256 presets in total. For this unit I'm planning on using it for a snare drum reverb. Once again, I'm just looking for some good suggestions as what kind of setting normally makes a good reverb for a snare drum.

Any advice on this is thoroughly appreciated.

Cheers, .... Colin.

P.S. I'm setting up our rig tomorrow night and me & the lad that does the sound for us are going to have a good test out of the new set-up. But I was just looking for some information in advance to get us in the right ballpark, so to speak.

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Re: Advice on a 'good reverb' settings
« Reply #1 on Oct 22, 2008, 6:44pm »

And as an after-thought to make things a bit easier, here are the links to the manuals on these 2 units.

The Lexicon MX200
http://www.lexiconpro.com/Product_Downloads/mx200/MX200Manual_B.pdf

The Art FXR
http://www.artproaudio.com/downloads/manuals/disc_omfxr.pdf

A list of time settings for all the presets are listed in the back pages of both manuals

Hope this helps.

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Re: Advice on a 'good reverb' settings
« Reply #2 on Oct 23, 2008, 2:08pm »

Generally speaking I use a stereo delay on vocals - has the effect of widening the signal, making it "bigger". Inevitably it's tempo matched (tap tempo is a wonderful thing), and I'll decide on either eighths, sixteenths or triplets as I go - occasionally, I'll use quarter notes as the tap to give a call and response kind of thjing - depends on the song, naturally.

Levels are a kinda weird thing - and again, it depends on the number. Sometimes I'll have a very in-you-face delay running, other times, it's almost subliminal, just a widening thing.

However, I rarely use reverb on the vox - certainly not on lead vox - as it can cloud the mix and muddy the vocals, and short verb (less than 500ms) simply makes the signal sound a bit ragged.

On snare drums, I tend to dial in a nice plate or hall at 1.5 seconds and blend it in with no early reflections, just enough so that the crack of the snare hits and there's just enough tail to pad the hit nicely, fading to zero before we're 50% of the way to the next beat (IYSWIM). I'll also EQ it to take everything above 12k out - I'm aiming to tie the snare into the mix without bringing it right up-front, so the verb doesn't want to be too bright.

And that's kinda why I don't use verbs on lead vox - it just takes a single decibel too much and you start pushing the vox back in the mix, whereas delay maintains the up-front-ness of the signal. While I don't necessarily want vox sitting 6dB proud of the rest of the mix, I do want it right at the front, and the more verb you stick on, the further back it goes.

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Re: Advice on a 'good reverb' settings
« Reply #3 on Oct 23, 2008, 9:21pm »

Thanks Dave. Excellent advice once again. Cheers mate.

Tested the new rack stuff out tonight and it's sounding canny. But of course it'll get it's real test out properly tomorrow at the gig. A nice big room so that the main mix is more dependant on the F.O.H. than the backline. So it'll be a good tester to see if we've got things set reasonably right.

Ta.

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